The Town Hall political meetings of Sam Adam's time in Boston were liberal democracy at its most deliberate. Speeches were made, debated, interjections came from the crowd and bystanders, but in the end democratic consensus was formed. And that consensus was tight enough that the Town Hall system backed a revolution for American independence.
Charles Mann in the final chapter of the book
1491 argues that there was a cultural ethnogenesis between the North East Americans and the constitution and polity of the Native Indian Five Nations. Mann argues that this, along with the enlightenment, affected Massachusettean views of liberty and equality.
The Five Nations were a product of continuing warfare between the Seneca, Cayuga, Onondaga, Oneida and Mohawk. The story goes that Deganawidah invited the powerful leader Tododoha to break a single arrow. Which he did. Deganawidah then bunlded five arrows together and asked Tododoha to do the same. He could not. Soon after a solar eclipse occurred, effectively sealing the fate of the tribes as independent by fulfilling Deganawida's prophecy of the tribes going into darkness if they did not join and stop the violence.
I do not know much about this, but it appears that the Haudenosaunee established a constitutional government under the Great Law of Peace as the Five Nations in around 1150 AD. The constitution included a constitutionally limited representative parliament where representatives would meet as sachems and then forge out a suitable outcome through unanimous agreement. The sachems, who were male, were chosen by women, who were the heads of the clans. Rather than the liberal view of political equality, there was a political distribution of power along sexual lines.
The northern American colonists came into contact with the Five Nations often and were admirers of their individual liberty, democratic forms and their social equality. Mann argues that ethnogenisis occurred here in the North, though not in the South were the Native American Indians were more hierarchical and autocratic in structure.
Mann argues that there was a free market in liberty where colonists could vote with their feet:
In the most direct way, Indian liberty made indigenous villages into competitors for colonists' allegiances. Colonial societes could not become too oppressive, because their members, surrounded by examples of free life - always had the option of voting with their feet.
If is likely that the first British villagers in North America, thousands of miles from the House of Lords, would have lost some of the brutally graded social hierarchy that characterised European life. But it is also clear that they were infused by the democratic, informal brashness of Native American culture.
Mann argues that when the Tea Party occurred and Bostonian dressed up as Mohawks tipped tea into the Harbour, the dressing up wasn't to deflect blame. It was a statement for the kind of liberty and social equality they saw in the culture of the Mohawks. They wanted it for America too.
Mann's chapter is contentious. But it is a fascinating challenge to how we view European colonisation of the new world.
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Most Popular Restaurants in Phoenix
Phoenix Eats Out is the restaurant review site for
Phoenix,
Scottsdale and
Old Town Scottsdale which lists the modernist and contemporary restaurants, taverns and bars in the greater Phoenix area.
This is the list of the most popular restaurants pages from phoenixeatsout.com that have been viewed the most;
My personal favourite restaurants in Phoenix are
AZ88,
Postinos,
Bomberos with
Grazie,
Humble Pie,
Orange Table,
The Vig,
Fez and others coming close behind. View the complete list with the photo-journalistic style images on
phoenixeatsout.com
Most Popular Hikes in Arizona
Arizona is an outdoor state and has lots of hiking in the city and around the state. Phoenix is unusual for most cities in having several large mountains in the center of the city with great hiking. Anyone who comes to Phoenix has to do the
Echo Canyon trail on Camelback and the
Summit Hike on Squaw Peak or Piesta Peak. The views of the city, suburbs and surrounding mountains are wonderful from Camelback and Piesta Peak.
For more experienced hikers there is the McDowell Mountains in North Scottsdale that has several difficult and strenuous hikes in
Tom's Thumb and
Bell Pass. Alternatively, you can hike the highest mountain in Arizona. At 12,600 feet
Humphrey's Peak is a long and difficult hike.
Alternate Australian Constitutions
Between 2004 and 2009 this site,
southsearepublic.org, was a constitutional blog based on scoop which focused on Australian and global constitutional issues.
One of the strongest aspects of it was the development of constitutions by those involved in the blog. These constitutions are the outcome:
The constitutions were built using principles from Montesquieu's separation of powers, the enlightnment's universal political rights and the ancient Athenian technology of sortition and choice by lot.
Archives For South Sea Republic
South Sea Republic started in 2004 as an Australian constitutional blog in 2004 based on scoop software. It was an immigrative outgrowth of Kuro5hin. The archives for each year since then;
The articles are ordered by views.
Who Is Cam Riley

I am an Australian living in the United States as a permanent resident.
I am a software developer by trade and mostly work in Java and jump between middleware and front end.
I originally worked in the New York area of the United States in telecommunications before moving to Washington DC and
working in a mix of telecommunications, energy and ITS. I started my own software company before heading out to
Arizona and working with Shutterfly. Since then I have joined a startup in the Phoenix area and am thoroughly enjoying myself.
I do a lot of photography which I post on this website, but also on flickr. I have a photo-journalistic website which lists
the modernist and contemporary restaurants in phoenix. I have a site on the
Australian Flying Corps [AFC] which has been around since the 1990s and which I unfortunately
lost the .org URL to during a life event; however, it is under the
www.australianflyingcorps.com URL now.
The AFC website has gone through several iterations since the 90s and the two most recent are
Australian Flying Corps Archives(2004-2002) and
Australian Flying Corps Archives(2002-1999) which are good places to start.
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