America is the current global hegemon, so it is always possible to make analogies with the US and prior super-powers such as Britain, Rome, and even Athens. Victor Davis Hanson looks at the analogies between America and Athens in
A War Like No Other. One of the curiosities of Sparta was that they would promise to bring tyranny to the states they liberated from Athenian democracy. Tyranny back then being a legitimate government form while democracy was the radical, liberal and egalitarian form of subversiveness.
Hansen writes:
Although Americans offer the world a radically egalitarian popular culture and, more recently, in a very Athenian mood, have sought to remove oligarchs and impose democracy - ... - enemies, allies, and neutrals alike are not so impressed.
They understandably fear American power and intentions while our successive governments, in the manner of confident and proud Athenians, assure them of our morality and selflessness.
Military power and idealism about bringing perceived civilization to others are prescription for frequent conflict in any age - and no ancient state made war more often than did fifth-century Athens.
Despite Athens' view of itself most of the ancient Greek states were more inclined toward Sparta despite its militant social structure and repugnant form of slavery. According to Hansen Greek states expected a higher level of moral and ethical behaviour from Athens than Sparta as well; which infuriated Athenians. We see a similar dynamic with the US. When America doesn't live up to its moral republican promise there is great disappointment, which must chap foreign policy realists in the US.
Ultimately however they are analogies. The modern state of America is drastically different to Athens or ancient Greece. Democracy, Republicanism, Liberalism, not to mention the fury and technology of warfare are significantly different. While the analogies offer whimsical curiosities the world is significantly different even if we can recognize modern patterns within the past and vice versa.
During the Athenian Sicilian campaign the cavalry of the Syracuse became the dominant weapon on the battlefield, stifling the forty thousand strong Athenian hoplites from gaining the advantage in the field. The Athenians in return raised their own cavalry and sent it to Sicily. They weren't the knights of medieval times though, they were small ponies, approximately four and half feet tall, and they lacked stirrups. Hardly frightening, except the Greeks of that time were tiny. Hanson writes:
These tiny mounts, mostly stallions, were only partialled protected with light cloth padding over the face, thighs and chest, and harder to ride than geldings.
It was hard to train riders to control the stallions as well as handle a spear and blade in battle.
The difference was that the Greek hoplites were only very small men too. It has only been recently that the diet has been wide enough and consistent enough to produce the six foot giants of men and women that we take for granted today. Hanson continues:
If death by trampling seems unlikely given the small weight and height of the ponies, it is important to remember that infantrymen themselves were about the same size as modern twelve year olds rather than contemporary adults, and fought as clumsy hoplites without javelins or bows.
Sobering thought. The Peloponessian War served as a breaking of the old Greek city-state agrarian method of solving disputes through cheap and short pitched hoplite battles. The war was so long and brutal that it meant siege engines, siege defences, political warfare, genocide and cavalry all became the new methods of warfare.
Triremes were the dreadnoughts of the classical era. They were expensive and required a great deal of maritime expertise, not to mention social class cohesion, in order to be effective in battle. The Athenian democratic political structure led to Athens dominating the seas until losses in the latter part of the Peloponessian War meant a degradation of the quantitative and qualitative advantages they held over the Spartans.
Trireme from didactylos47's photostream Equally important was the logistical structure supporting the triremes. This is true for most military endeavours; American hegemony currently is based upon American dominance of logistics such that their forces can maintain a high tempo indefinitely. This was also true of the British military in their hay day. Triremes were short range weapons heavily reliant on human labor at the oars. Consequently they needed constant water and food provisioning.
Hanson writes:
Much of Athenian foreign policy, including its efforts to maintain an overseas empire in the Aegean, cultivate allies such as Argos and Corcyra, and establish dependencies at distant Amphipolis and Potidea, was predicated on just the need to create permanent bases to facilitate long-distance cruises.
Trireme harbours were not unlike the British Empire's network of coaling stations throughout Africa and the Pacific to serve its late-nineteenth century global fleet.
This is not unlike
John Reeve's argument that the establishment of a navy is a sign of the maturity and political stability of a nation-state since the economic, social, manufacturing, logistical and technical demands of a navy are so high.
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I am an Australian living in the United States as a permanent resident.
I am a software developer by trade and mostly work in Java and jump between middleware and front end.
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working in a mix of telecommunications, energy and ITS. I started my own software company before heading out to
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